Dr. Catalona’s Response to Public Statements Posted by
Washington University Regarding His Dispute with WU Over
Who Has Jurisdiction of Prostate Tissue and Blood Samples

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n Dr. Catalona’s and his patients’ dispute with
Washington University (WU) over who has
jurisdiction of the prostate cancer tissue and blood
samples that he began collecting for research in 1983, the legal system will decide questions of law. Public comments from WU are another story.
        WU posed a set of their own questions, answered them, and then posted those questions and answers on the Internet.
        Their public comments are replete with inaccuracies and misleading information. Those inaccuracies need to be addressed no matter the legal outcome.

Questions and Answers Regarding Washington University vs. Catalona

WU’s Question 1.    What was the dispute between Washington University and Dr. Catalona?

WU’s Answer 1:
   Washington University developed, paid for, and maintained a substantial repository of tissue and serum samples for prostate cancer research. The University’s researchers used these samples, and made them available to researchers at other institutions, including Dr. Catalona, to better understand the cause of prostate cancer and possibly find a cure. Washington University asked a federal court to determine whether Washington University owns the repository and has the authority to continue to use it and share it. Dr. Catalona claimed we do not. We are pleased the judge ruled in the University’s favor.

Dr. Catalona’s Answer 1:
    In 1983, Dr. Catalona conceived and spearheaded the establishment of a “biorepository” for the collection and storage of tissue and blood samples for future prostate cancer research. Dr. Catalona arranged for the training of his technicians to take the samples from cancerous prostates he removed surgically in such a way that he could freeze them for later research and, at the same time, not interfere with the samples needed for pathology reports. Dr. Catalona also collected tissue and blood samples from relatives of patients who were affected with prostate cancer as well as those who were not.
         Because of Dr. Catalona’s foresight, these samples and this repository are the oldest and one of the world’s largest of their kind and, in many instances, represent three generations of family history and research.
         Virtually all of the individuals who contributed their tissues and blood samples to the biorepository were either Dr. Catalona’s patients or participants in studies directed or overseen by him.
         As the driving force behind the studies, Dr. Catalona conceived and established research protocols for the cancer research studies and appointed other members of the urology division to specific research projects.
         In addition, Dr. Catalona raised virtually all of the money - millions of dollars - to support the activities of this “biorepository” through grants from the federal government (NIH), private foundations (Urological Research Foundation, CaP Cure), industry, and patient gifts.
         When Dr. Catalona left Washington University to continue his surgical practice and life-saving research activities at Northwestern University, he expected to take the samples with him, samples that his patients had directed for his research in prostate cancer. It is not unprecedented that a researcher would take samples he had been instrumental in collecting.
WU’s Question 2.    Why does the University believe it owns the tissue and did it take the tissue away from Dr. Catalona?

WU’s Answer 2:
   The donors gave their tissue to Washington University. They provided it for the University to use in research. Many of the donor consent forms had Dr. Catalona’s name on them as the person who had the lead position on a team of research collaborators, but that didn’t mean the donations were made personally to Dr. Catalona. Dr. Catalona’s employment agreement with Washington University clearly specified this. The University could not “take” the repository from Dr. Catalona because he never owned it, though for a time he managed it.

Dr. Catalona’s Answer 2:
    Dr. Catalona’s position is that neither he nor WU own the samples in the repository. He believes that he was the custodian of the sample collection, but the research participants and patients own their own genetic material, and they should decide who should coordinate access to their tissue samples, how and for what the samples should be used, and where they should be stored on their behalf.
        He believes that the men who provided samples for his collection did so because they wanted him to direct how those samples would be used in prostate cancer research. Dr. Catalona believes that, under federal regula-tions and the University's own consent forms and brochures, the patients remain the owners of the samples, and, as the continuing owners, they have the right to decide who directs the use of their samples.
        The patients who joined the suit along with Dr. Catalona clearly believe the same.
        In fact, to say that Dr. Catalona “managed” the tissue samples shows a lack of respect for the results of his years of research from these samples which have changed world-wide practices for treatment, detection, and research of prostate cancer, such as use of the PSA test, testing of PSA velocity to determine timing for biopsy and cancer aggressiveness, and discovery of several new genetic regions statistically associated with prostate cancer and its aggressiveness.
WU’s Question 3.    If patients want the samples given to Catalona, why not give them to him?

WU’s Answer 3:
   We would like all tissue donors to know that if Dr. Catalona has a research proposal and wants access to the tissue samples in the Washington University repository, he can submit a proposal to the repository’s peer-review panel and get access to the tissue. Our goal is to ensure that the tissue is used to do important research on prostate cancer, and we have always been open to requests from Dr. Catalona or any other researcher to use the tissue samples for their intended purposes. In fact, Dr. Catalona’s previous requests were granted by the peer-review panel. We fear some of his former patients believe that Dr. Catalona no longer has access to the donated tissue samples, but in fact he does.

Dr. Catalona’s Answer 3:
    Dr. Catalona has been stymied in his efforts to get tissue samples from past requests and sees no evidence that the situation has changed. As Dr. Catalona’s research was posted on WU’s website as “landmark” research, WU concedes that his research is important. Yet, WU would not honor the requests of the patients who wished to transfer their samples to him.
         In fact, the repository’s peer-review panel was put into place only after WU took away Dr. Catalona’s directed use of the samples and discretion on sharing them with fellow researchers. The peer-review panel was, in one way, evidence of WU’s intent to limit Dr. Catalona’s previous access to the samples.
         From court evidence, the University’s Vice Chancellor for Research admitted that he “stalled” approval of research requested by Dr. Catalona in the past. And also from court evidence, in 2001 the University’s Business Development Director wrote to the Vice Chancellor: “Bill Catalona wants to send nearly 2,000 documented samples to Hybertech for free. Just from a cost recovery scenario, this should be worth nearly $100,000 to the University. The only consideration Hybertech is offering is the potential for Catalona to get a publication. It is my opinion this is an unacceptable proposal.”
         Dr. Catalona and Hybertech had collaborated on important studies related to PSA testing. Dr. Catalona’s publications are his way to share his findings with the medical world. That goal is laudable and the highest and most valuable contribution a scientist can make.
         These tissue samples are non-renewable resources. Once they are used up, they are forever lost to additional research.
         Dr. Catalona envisioned and coordinated the research endeavors for these samples for almost twenty years and his expertise and experience resulted in world changing practices for treatment, detection and research in prostate cancer.
         Allowing far less experienced researchers than Dr. Catalona to decide who should use these non-renewable resources and for what studies could be at odds with the desires of the patients and set back prostate cancer research by years.
WU’s Question 4.    Why not split the samples between WU and Catalona?

WU’s Answer 4:
   The University attempted to negotiate a split of the samples with Dr. Catalona, but as we neared a settlement, he backed away from it and asserted that all the samples should be under his sole control. Later, Dr. Catalona changed his position again and asserted that the donors retained control over their samples and could redirect them to him. We believe the research consent forms the donors signed give the samples to Washington University.

Dr. Catalona’s Answer 4:
    The University of Virginia had offered Dr. Catalona the position as Director of their Mellon Prostate Cancer Institute. The Dean of the University of Virginia attempted to negotiate a split of the samples with WU on behalf of Dr. Catalona. Dr. Catalona requested a usable portion of the samples from all patients and research participants enrolled in his studies and the ability to continue to obtain critical follow-up information on them. Dr. Catalona offered to support research assistants and partial secretarial and salary support to one of his close collaborators at WU to continue his follow-up studies on these patients.
         Samples are far more valuable when the researcher knows the patient’s treatment, whether or not there was a recurrence of the cancer, how the recurrence was treated, how the recurrence responded to subsequent treatment and what the ultimate outcome was. Without the follow-up information, samples are far less valuable for research. WU would not agree to this arrangement and broke off negotiations for sharing the samples.
WU’s Question 5.    Since the federal judge ruled that Washington University has ownership of the samples, will you still let Dr. Catalona use any of them?

WU’s Answer 5:
    Any researcher will be able to make a request to use some of the tissue for research related to prostate cancer. Dr. Catalona’s previous requests have been granted. We’re open to further requests from Washington University scientists and from researchers elsewhere, including Dr. Catalona.

Dr. Catalona’s Answer 5:
    Based on WU’s past actions, Dr. Catalona has no reason to expect that he would be granted meaningful access to the samples. As mentioned above, from court evidence , WU’s Vice Chancellor for Research admitted that he “stalled” approval of research requested by Dr. Catalona in the past.
         And also from court evidence, in 2001 the University’s Business Development Director wrote to the Vice Chancellor: “Bill Catalona wants to send nearly 2,000 documented samples to Hybertech for free. Just from a cost recovery scenario, this should be worth nearly $100,000 to the University. The only consideration Hybertech is offering is the potential for Catalona to get a publication. It is my opinion this is an unacceptable proposal.” WU released a statement following the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals ruling: “Based on this decision, Washington University will resume sharing the tissues in the repository with its own scientists and those at other institutions who want to conduct promising research using the samples, including Catalona. Proposals will be evaluated on a peer-review basis by a panel of Washington University Researchers.” It is important that under the Court’s ruling the “promising “ research does not have to be prostate cancer research to which the patients consented, which in many instances was only for PSA testing.
         Most relevant, as one of Dr. Catalona’s patients, Richard Ward, who has joined the suit on behalf of the patients said: “Thousands of men afflicted with prostate cancer are not able to have their cancerous tissues directed to the specific research projects for which they were donated.”
WU’s Question 6.    What will Washington University use the tissue for in light of the judge's ruling?

WU’s Answer 6:
   We will use the repository for its intended purpose, which is to pursue new information about the development of, and potentially a cure for, prostate cancer.

Dr. Catalona’s Answer 6:
    If WU is sincere in its desire to have the repository used for its intended purpose to pursue new information about the development of, and potential cure, for prostate cancer, one would think WU would want the material to be with the best and most experienced person to pursue that goal. Where it is should be less important than how the best life-saving research can be accomplished in the fastest time frame.
         However, under the Court’s ruling, WU could sell or use the tissue samples for research not of the patients’ preferences.
WU’s Question 7.    How has this dispute affected research using the repository?

WU’s Answer 7:
   Unfortunately, research with these samples was halted while the court decided on the case, preventing any research with the tissue bank, which includes tens of thousands of samples donated by thousands of men who were enrolled in the research by other surgeons on the Washington University faculty. Donations from all the surgeons’ volunteers went into this University repository.
         Research was halted because the courts ordered an injunction against the use and/or distribution of the samples until the case was decided. This injunction was granted because the tissue and blood samples are non-renewable resources. Once used up by whoever has discretion of their distribution, they are lost forever to other research that might have been more productive.

Dr. Catalona’s Answer 7:
    Needless to say, Dr. Catalona’s research has been substantially affected and is still affected by not having the use of these samples. Instead of being able to use information from a 20+-year biorepository that he created, his research is limited to information from surgical patients and research volunteers of the last four and a half years.
         Dr. Catalona’s research program at Northwestern University has been highly productive, as documented in his publication record (See www.pubmed.com and search under "catalona w"). He was a principal author in a paper in 2006 that announced the discovery of prostate cancer genetic risk factors that has been heralded as “…perhaps the most significant discovery in prostate cancer genetics to date.” Moreover, he is a participating member of the National Cancer Institute (NCI)-funded International Consortium of Prostate Cancer Genetics and a co-chair of the NCI-funded Prostate Cancer Specialized Program of Research Excellence Genetics Working Group.
         But one can only wonder how many potential new discoveries and new research directions have been postponed because of Dr. Catalona’s inability to continue his studies with his over 20-year tissue and blood sample collection.
         Also, as stated previously, all of the individuals who contributed their tissues and blood samples to the biorepository were either Dr. Catalona’s personal patients, patients he referred to other members of his staff for treatment, or participants in studies directed or overseen by him.
         Dr. Catalona conceived the studies and established the protocols for the cancer research studies and appointed other members of the urology division to specific research projects.
WU’s Question 8.    How would it affect tissue/blood banks nationwide if patients could change their mind about a tissue donation and redirect the tissue to another institution?

WU’s Answer 8:
    It would become difficult if not impossible to manage tissue banks. Researchers would be concerned about starting large, long-term research projects because of the prospect that thousands of samples could be pulled from the experiment at the instigation of another researcher. If donors always retain control over their tissue, even after they donate it, as Dr. Catalona claims, it could have horrible implications for blood donation and organ transplantation. Each research volunteer who testified in court on Dr. Catalona’s behalf was asked during cross-examination whether at the time they read and signed the consent form they thought they had the right to reclaim their donated tissue, and they all said they did not.

Dr. Catalona’s Answer 8:
    In the aftermath of terrible abuses of research participants in the past, federal regulations have been promulgated to protect patients and research participants. These regulations provide for the participant to be able to change his mind about participating at any time, for any reason, and without penalty. In fact, the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals decided that donors of tissue and blood samples have the right to compel the University to stop using their tissues and to direct WU to destroy the samples. Just as in clinical practice, patients have a right to direct the donation of a kidney or blood to a specific individual, they have the right to choose the type of research they will participate in.
        Federal regulations also forbid the use of language in research consent forms that appears to have the patients waive any of their rights, such as the right of ownership of their tissue. Each research volunteer testified in court that his or her intention was to provide a sample for Dr. Catalona to use in his research and not to give it to Washington University to own and use as it wishes.
         Acknowledging that donors own their genetic material and have the right to decide where and how it is used would be a boon to research and to researchers. Patients could be assured that a sample provided for a specific kind of research and to a specific researcher would be used for that and no other purpose without their permission. And researcher would have more security, not less, in making long-term commitments to their research. They would know that an institution could not take away years of their work because of a change in policy or personnel. The scenario of patients ordering their samples destroyed or completely withdrawn from research is far worse than the one WU proposed and would make management and use of biorepositories for research projects more precarious.
        As a patient and donor, Richard Ward, said: “Because we have established the right to compel the University to stop using our tissues, we can only hope they will honor our wishes and transfer the tissues to Dr. Catalona to continue his research. “Otherwise, our only recourse is the unfathomable and repugnant choice of ordering the University to destroy our samples or put them permanently on the shelf. Either choice imperils vital past, current and future research.”
WU’s Question 9.    Has the tissue been used for research since the dispute began?

WU’s Answer 9:
   The tissue has not been used for research since this dispute began. Washington University sent some of the samples to the National Cancer Institute for important research on the mechanisms of prostate cancer. Washington University researchers’ ability to contribute to that important project was taken away as a result of Dr. Catalona’s claims about who had control over the samples.

Dr. Catalona’s Answer 9:
    As stated above, research was halted because the courts ordered an injunction against the use and/or distribution of the samples until the case was decided.
         This injunction was granted because the tissue and blood samples are non-renewable resources. Once used up by whoever has discretion of their distribution, they are lost forever to other research that might have been more productive.
        WU sent hundreds of serum samples to the National Cancer Institute for a type of research to which the patients had not consented and without telling the researchers there that there was a dispute over the control and custody of some or all of the samples.
        The head of Pathology at the National Cancer Institute told Dr. Catalona that, in his opinion, the patients should decide who uses their samples and for what purpose, and he returned them to WU unused.
WU’s Question 10.    Historically, who has been granted ownership in such disputes, researchers, donors or universities?

WU’s Answer 10:
   Faculty researchers are representing the university when they do the research. The samples may be under a researcher’s management as the principal investigator of the study, but the courts have upheld that the tissue in a repository like this belongs to the university once the volunteer has donated it.

Dr. Catalona’s Answer 10:
    There is little or no historical precedent for this case dealing with unaltered blood and tissue samples, which is why it has garnered so much national attention.
         In prior cases, in which the issue was derivatives or altered products of the samples, courts have ruled that the universities own the intellectual property derived from the samples.
        Tissue repositories are a relatively new advance that developed along with advances in genetic research. Whereas medical researchers and the public now know how valuable genetic samples can be, such knowledge was not common when Dr. Catalona began his repository. He was very much “ahead of his time” in this regard. His patients and research volunteers trusted his intuition and provided their samples for his research.
        Dr. Catalona’s position is that the genetic material in the repository belongs to the donors and they maintain their ownership forever. Under federal regulations and WU's own consent forms and brochures, he believes that neither he nor the University can say it belongs to them with no strings attached.
        This issue, and similar ones regarding use and sharing of genetic information, is of more and more concern as genetic research is in the forefront of scientific research and “personalized medicine.” In the emerging era of personalized medicine, these samples could benefit the patients and their family members in their personal health care, such as determining their susceptibility to diseases and selecting treatments that may be best for their individual case.
        The corollary is that careless use or misuse of the samples could render them unavailable for personalized health care when they are most needed and could result in their genetic blueprint being published on the Internet, which could affect their and their family members’ ability to get insurance or employment. These exact risks are specified in WU’s consent forms and brochures.
WU’s Question 11.    What did patients agree to when they signed Washington University’s research consent form?

WU’s Answer 11:
   They volunteered to donate specimens for research related to prostate cancer. Any research volunteer has the right to withdraw from research, and Washington University supports that right. We are not aware of any basis for the claim that withdrawing from research means that the donor gets the tissue back or gets to redirect it to a third party. (This would be like donating money to the Red Cross and then calling them two years later and saying you want them to send your money to the American Cancer Society.) With research tissue repositories, withdrawal is accomplished by wiping out all information that connects donors to the tissue sample they donated, or by destroying the sample. These are the standard approaches used by all universities, as far as we know.

Dr. Catalona’s Answer 11:
    WU acknowledges that research volunteers have the right to withdraw from research and that “withdrawal is accomplished by wiping out all information that connects donors to the tissue sample they donated, or by destroying the sample.” WU stated in court that it would have the right to de-identify the samples and use them for other types of research. However, with today’s advances in genetic technology, it is not possible to completely de-identify a sample, and it is possible to trace a DNA sample to an individual person.
         Six thousand research participants said in a formal document that they wanted their tissue samples to follow Dr. Catalona and to be part of his research studies.
        Rather than respect their wishes, WU would see the possibility of samples being destroyed or de-identified and the research thereby stopped or limited.
        Richard Ward, a patient litigant, said that if WU does not respect our requests: “Our only recourse is the unfathomable and repugnant choice of ordering the University to destroy our samples or put them permanently on the shelf. Either choice imperils vital past, current and future research.”
        WU’s analogy of requesting transfer of a donation of money from the Red Cross to the American Cancer Society is inapt. Tissue samples contain a patient’s personal genes, and federal regulations allow a research participant to change his mind about allowing his samples to be used in research at any time. Money has no specifically personal ownership characteristics, and there are no federal regulations stipulating a donor’s right to change his mind at any time.
WU’s Question 12.    Why does Washington University think the second consent forms, requesting that the tissue be given to Dr. Catalona, are invalid?

WU’s Answer 12:
   We believe those consent forms are invalid because they do not comply with the federal law that requires any research related consent form to be reviewed by an ethics panel called an Institutional Review Board, whose highest priority is to protect research participants. These consent forms had no IRB review at Washington University or at Northwestern University. In addition to being illegal, we believe they were unethical, because the forms and accompanying letters led donors to believe that Dr. Catalona no longer had access to the tissue for his research, and that these tissues, retained solely for research purposes, were somehow connected to the donors’ future medical care.

Dr. Catalona’s Answer 12:
    Dr. Catalona never asserted that the transfer forms signed by the patients constituted formal informed consent documents. The request forms from Dr. Catalona’s patients simply show their desires to have their samples transferred to Dr. Catalona for his use in research.
         The patients' cancer tissues of course are connected to their future medical care. Indeed, the University's Head of Urology testified under oath that he "absolutely" and "wholeheartedly" agered agreed that the tissue samples at issue here were "very important" to the Patients' future health care. And he testified that the potential to notify patients' families of prostate cancer risks was "the benefit" of keeping tissues traceable to their source.
        Ignoring its own official's testimony, WU now seems to suggest that Dr. Catalona was merely "blowing smoke" to coerce his patients into transferring their samples. He resents such an implication and finds it insulting to him and to the patients who have also joined the suit on their behalf to have the samples transferred.
WU’s Question 13.    Is it legal for the University to discard this tissue or send it to other researchers?

WU’s Answer 13:
   Yes, in fact as manager of the repository Dr. Catalona on frequent occasions both discarded samples he felt he no longer wanted to keep, and sent samples to collaborators at other institutions. He didn’t ask patients’ permission to do these things, presumably because he felt the research consent form covered it. Sharing tissue and discarding unneeded samples are routine among researchers who deal with tissue repositories. Collaboration through sharing specimens is vital to research and the University wants to resume using the collection as soon as possible to conduct research and provide samples to other researchers with good proposals.

Dr. Catalona’s Answer 13:
    Dr. Catalona was more than the “manager” of the repository. He created, maintained, and sustained it over decades. And much of his career’s work in finding better means of treatment, detection and clues into the genetic causes of prostate cancer involved the use of that repository.
         Responsibly, Dr. Catalona only discarded portions of patient samples where duplicate material was available to conserve freezer space and allow room for samples from other patients.
        The patients’ signed consent forms allowing Dr. Catalona to share their samples with his collaborators around the country, which he did in a responsible and highly productive manner.
        It is Dr. Catalona’s position that, based on his research track record and experience with the biorespository, if the patients’ feel that he would make the best use their limited and non-renewable resources in the biorespository, he should be able to use them.
WU’s Question 14.    It has been suggested that Washington University has financial motivations for keeping the repository. Is this true?

WU’s Answer 14:
    The prospects for any licensing income from the repository are slim to none. The University has never profited a nickel from the repository, although it has spent hundreds of thousands of university dollars and federal research dollars to create and maintain the repository and conduct research using it. Our motivation is to contribute to the understanding of what causes cancer and perhaps learn how to cure it. We share the tissue—but not the donors’ personal information-- with other university researchers for the cost of shipping. If a for-profit company has researchers who want to use the tissue, and their proposal is acceptable to the peer-review panel, the transfer of specimens is documented through something called a Material Transfer Agreement. All research universities use Material Transfer Agreements. If one wants to believe that the repository hasgreat financial value, then it would have that value for Dr. Catalona, too, should he have succeeded in wresting it from Washington University.

Dr. Catalona’s Answer 14:
    That large research universities, including WU, derive very substantial income from their respective research “enterprises” can be a matter of no dispute.
         As stated above, from court evidence, in 2001 the University’s Business Development Director wrote to the Vice Chancellor: “Bill Catalona wants to send nearly 2,000 documented samples to Hybertech for free. Just from a cost recovery scenario, this should be worth nearly $100,000 to the University. The only consideration Hybertech is offering is the potential for Catalona to get a publication. It is my opinion this is an unacceptable proposal.” The proposed payment of $100,000 to the WU would be through a Material Transfer Agreement. Dr. Catalona is aware that WU has received substantial moneys from Material Transfer Agreements.
        WU claims “It has spent hundreds of thousands of university dollars … to create and maintain the repository and conduct research using it.” In truth, Dr. Catalona raised virtually all of the money for the direct support of the biorepository. He raised millions of dollars through grants from the National Institutes of health, private prostate cancer foundations, industry and gifts from patients to maintain the repository and associated databases and to conduct research using it.
        In addition, the prestige and worldwide recognition given to WU because of Dr. Catalona had no price tag.
        And neither did the invaluable research and resulting world-wide practices in early detection of prostate cancer that have saved so many men’s lives.
        Dr. Catalona is continuing his career’s work at Northwestern, and many of his patients and research volunteers want him to assist him in attaining his goals.
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